I do know that this new law does not sit very well with a lot a truck drivers. However, if they think that it is bad here, I beleive that in the UK an officer can plug into your vehicle, while you sleep at a truck stop, and retreive your Hours of Service. So this may just be the beginning...

We instructed the dealership where we purchased our trucks to set them to 105 kph as reguired. We had a truck pulled into scales and checked and were told we were not in compliance because we were set at 106. Just another way to nitpick at truckers who are following the laws and operating safely.

How do we fool the people at the scale, Thats what I want to know!

I would like to know why go buses are not encluded or highway coaches.

I do not mind having to slow down to 105 as lang the cars have to slow down as well.Lets have an equeal playing field.

Paul Korn

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF WE CAN SET THE PARAMETERS FOR TRIPS INTO ONTARIO AND QUEBEC AND THEN RESET WHEN WE LEAVE TOSE TWO MONEY HUNGRY PROVINCES. OF NOTE, IF THEY ARE THAT HUNGRY FOR CASH, WHY NOT LIMIT CARS, TOO. THERE GOVERNORS CAN BE SET AT DEALERSHIPS.
AND, OF COURSE, WITH EVERY VEHICLE LIMITED, THAT WOULD FREE UP THE POLICE FORCE TO GO AFTER REAL CRIMINALS, WOULDN'T IT.

Karen, Yes you can remove the speed limiter parameters once you're outside Ontario and Quebec. According to an informatioin card I received from the MTO: "Ontario's proposal is for a speed limiter that can be shut off when leaving the province to allow flexibility for carriers traveling to jurisdictions where the speed limit is higher."

I think that Karen should be the next PM or at least the Minister of Transportation. I will back her up 100%

The speed limiter is not doing what it is intended to do, rather it is having a serious negative affect on the independent truckers from all across North America. In theory, the speed limiter "may" have come from a good idea. In reality, not all trucks are spec'd out the same way. Thus, the speed limiter being placed on a truck that is spec'd out to run best at 100km/h, the 105 km/h limiter will have little negative effect financially. It will also restrict that truck from going over its optimal operating parameters.
Now when you put that 105 km/h speed limiter on a truck that the manufacturers spec'd out to operate most efficiently from 110 to 116 km/h, which is the overall average of the speed limits throughout North America, you have a drastic negative effect. By doing this to the latter group, you are essentially causing every one of these trucks to run less efficient by burning more fuel to do the same mileage. My own experience has found that my 2000 Volvo, with a Detroit Series 60 engine, is burning an average of 70 litres more fuel, per week, to go the same distance as before operating below the 105 cap.
You can not tell me that the people at the top of these special interest groups who are pushing for limiters on all trucks, that they didn't know this would be the end result. If that were the case, then why would they have been specially ordering their trucks for the past couple years to be spec'd to run optimum at 105? I believe they are well aware of the financial negative effect the limiters would have on their competition.
The speed limiters were not to make our roads safer, not for the environment, which can be easily explained from any truck service technician, but rather to create a financial hardship on the small fleet operators and the independant owner operators.
If the speed limiter was for safety, then put the speed limiter in charge of the Ontario and Quebec Court Judges. For those who routinely are caught speeding exessively, the court can impose a provincial restriction on the individuals drivers licence for a speed limiter to be required. This would make the speed limiter about safety. As far as the environment, making a truck able to run at its optimum preformance will make that truck more environmentally friendly. Creating lanes or allowing trucks to use the existing HOV lanes would be environmentally friendly. The less times a truck has to slow, stop or accelerate through heavy traffic, as is with any vehicle, would be environmentally friendly. For safety, having a "trucks only" lane would reduce the number of truck/car accidents in our metro areas. Come on Ontario, lets start getting smart about what we are doing. Sometimes our government officials need to remember that the best course of action, is no action.

James, I'm sorry to report, your responce to Karen is incorrect. I have a copy of the same pamphlet that the MTO was passing out, indicating that the speed limiter could be turned off when crossing the boarder. I brought this up at a meeting I had at Queen's Park in March. Their responce was that they would make sure that those pamphlets would stop being distributed by the MTO. Too late... They already did the dammage. They got you believing it and reporting it. Again, mis information being past on to you and the public. The best thing that could come out of this would be for a media report to clarify the mis-information that was provided by the MTO.
The ECM can only be changed by taking it to your dealer and having it re-programmed. You're looking at $150 each time to make those changes. Now some have said some of the larger companies that have their own computers can change settings by satelite link. Now that would be thousands of dollars for investment for each and every independant trucker out there. Not feasable or realistic.
I'll watch for the artice...

Hi Scott, I'll seek clarification from the Ministry (it wouldn't be the first time enforcement policy has changed ie. CVOR points being/now not being assigned), however they were still distributing this information as recently as four weeks ago. I will report the MTO's response.
James

A little vague...but MTO seems to be standing by that line:

1.- Does the above sentence still apply?
Yes.

2.- Can a truck driver 'shut off' the speed limiter setting when they leave the province?
Ontario has no intention of mandating speed limiters outside of our jurisdiction.